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'The Honorable Incorporation of the King's Arms Kitchen'
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Reminiscences by a 'frequenter' 1881-97

s you look at the Eastgate from within the Walls, on the left-hand side, immediately next to the gate is a narrow passageway. At the end of this, in what is now the premises of a bank, formerly existed a public house called the King's Arms Kitchen, also known as Mother Hall's.
In the 18th and 19th centuries, it housed a drinking and gambling club going by the splendid name of The Honorable Incorporation of the King's Arm's Kitchen. This came about as the result of an order by King Charles II that the ancient custom of electing the mayor and his officers was to end. Sir Thomas Grosvenor was appointed as mayor, thus spawning an oligarchy between Eaton Hall (the Grosvenor residence) and Chester Corporation that would last until the Election Reform Act of 1832. The city's people were, unsurprisingy, increasingly unhappy with this imposition of an unelected mayor and Corporation, and one evening around the year 1770, a group of tradesmen met in a room in this pub and decided to form a City Assembly of their own, which was organised (a wonderful idea) as a complete shadow assembly, a satirical imitation of the Corporation, with its own elected mayor, recorder, town clerk, sheriffs, aldermen and common councilmen. They even had a replica of the mayor's sword and mace made for them. In the course of time, the serious, satirical point of the King's Arms Kitchen was largely lost and it degenerated into a drinking and gambling club. The regulars, however, did not forget the old rules and regulations, such as that which declared that if a stranger sat in the mayor's chair, it was his duty to buy drinks for all present. During the Second World War, many an American GI was invited to sit in the mayor's chair!
The fittings of the room where this worthy institution met, complete with wood panelling upon which was inscribed the succession of member's names, was preserved when the pub closed in 1978, and was transferred to the Grosvenor Museum, where they were imaginitively incorporated into the decor of the museum's teashop, and may still be seen there today. But now we invite you to read the fascinating reminiscences of an anonymous 19th century 'frequenter'...
"I
have
been
asked
to
write
a
few
recollections
of
the
manners
and
customs
appertaining
to
the
King's
Arms
Kitchen,
and
have
pleasure
in
complying
with
the
request
although
probably
it
may
be
in
a
somewhat
disjointed
manner
as
one
scarcely
knows
where
to
begin
and
where
to
leave
off,
to
recall
to
mind
a
fact,
a
characteristic
of
Chester
which,
for
all
the
present
writer
knows
to
the
contrary,
is
absolutely
unique.
That
is,
the
existence
in
our
midst
for
the
period
of
at
least
130
years
of
a
mock
corporation,
if
by
that
profane
name
one
can
fitly
describe
an
"Honourable
Body"
which
annually
during
that
long
period
of
time
elected
its
Mayor,
its
Sheriff,
its
Recorder,
its
Aldermen,
and
its
Town
Clerk,
which
regularly
issued
decrees,
and
jealously
saw
to
their
enforcement
by
fines
and
penalties.
When
the
Chester
King's
Arms
Corporation
came
into
existence
it
is
difficult
to
ascertain,
but
the
official
minutes
at
present
preserved
go
no
further
back
than
1770.
To
become
a
member
it
was
necessary
to
be
proposed,
seconded
and
elected
by
a
certain
number
of
members,
and
even
then
a
man
could
not
regard
himself
as
a
member
of
the
Honourable
Body
unless
he
qualified
by
the
payment
for
glasses
round
for
all
members
present,
and
the
making
of
the
following
declaration:
"I
do
declare
that
I
will
be
faithful
and
true
to
His
Majesty
King
George
the
Third,
the
Mayor,
Aldermen,
Sheriffs,
and
other
members
of
this
Corporation,
their
lawful
commands
obey,
and
will
endeavour
to
prove
myself
a
worthy
member
of
this
Honourable
Body".
My
recollection
of
the
room
dates
back
to
1881
when
I
went
with
Mr.
John
Humphreys,
organist
of
Matthew
Henry's
Unitarian
Church
in
Trinity
Street.
Matthew
Henry
was
a
celebrated
preacher
and "Bible
Commentator"
and
there
still
exists
in
the
church
a
"chained
Bible"
and
the
pulpit
from
which
he
preached.
Incidentally
I
may
say
there
is
a
monument
to
his
memory
in Grosvenor
Road
which
was
erected
150
vears
after
his
death.
(Today
it
rests
in
the
middle
of
the
traffic
island
near
the
Castle!)
Mr. Humphreys
was
a
member
of
the
Kitchen
which
at
that
time
numbered
about
40,
and
they
used
to
hold
an
annual
dinner
(in
an
upstairs
room)
on
which
occasion
after
dining
they
marched
back
in
procession,
headed
by
the
Mayor
for
the
time
being
and
the
regalia.
The
room
was
very
exclusive
and
none
of
the
general
body
of
citizens
would
think
of
entering
unless
accompanied
by
a
member.
Everyone
practically
occupied
the
same
seat,
one
near
the
mantelpiece
being
used
by
Mr.
Sandy,
a
retired
lay
clerk
at
Chester
(and
formerly
of
Wells)
Cathedral.
Being
next
to
the
bell
it
was
always "Ring
the
bell
Mr. Sandy" and
he
was
kept
well
occupied.
There
is
the
Mayor's
chair
with
Sword
and
Mace,
a
replica
of
the
city's
regalia
and
boards
round
the
room
contain
the
names
of
the
Mayors
and
Sheriffs
of
this
'mock
corporation'
with
special
seats
for
them
as
well
as
the
Town
Clerk,
the
Recorder
and
other
officials.
Beautiful
oak
panelling
surrounds
the
room,
diamond
headed
in
shape,
and
it
is
said,
quite
truly
I
believe,
that
it
came
from
the
old
pew
doors
of
St.
John's
Church when
the
pews
were
replaced
with
modern
seats.
St.
John's
is
the
oldest
in
the
city
dating
from
about
AD680
and
has
been
both
a
Cathedral
and
a
Collegiate
Church
in
the
days
when
the
diocese
embraced
Coventry
and
Lichfield,
the
Bishop
dividing
his
residence
between
the
three
places.
There
is
also
an
oil
painting
on
wood
of
the
Royal
Arms-
the
Lion
and
the
Unicorn,
surrounding
which
is
the
inscription: "This
picture
is
the
property
of
the
Incorporated
Society
of
the
King's
Arm's
Kitchen."
It
was
painted
by
a
Mr.
Clowes,
a
heraldic
painter
in
the
city,
and
presented
by
him
as
a
gift
to
the
Incorporation.
The entrance to the King's Arms Kitchen and the narrow passageway that led to it from Eastgate Street- photographed long after the pub closed.
In
the
centre
of
the
roof
is
a
circular
panel
with
the
words
Persevere
under
the
Rose,
implying
that
whatever
took
place
in
that
room
was
to
be
considered
secret.
On
each
side
of
the
fireplace
is
a
cupboard
for
the
keeping
of
'churchwardens',
long
clay
pipes,
each
member
who
indulged
in
the
fragrant
weed
marking
it
with
his
monogram,
and
replacing
it
until
wanted
again.
There
is
also
a
clock,
underneath
which
is
a
space
about
a
yard
square,
which
is
pointed
out
as
the
actual
spot
where
King
Charles
hid
himself
after
witnessing
from
a
tower
on
the
City
Walls
the
defeat
of
his
army
at
the
Battle
of
Rowton
Moor,
three
miles
out
of
Chester.
On
this
(Phoenix)
tower
a
tablet
states: "King
Charles
stood
On
this
tower
on
Sept.
24th,
1645,
and
saw
his
army
defeated
on
Rowton
Moor."
The
legend
is
that
King
Charles
was
hidden
for
a
month
after
the
Rowton
battle
in
the
kitchen
of
a
cottage
next
to
an
hotel,
that
the
spot
was
marked
as
sacred,
and
the
room
was
utilised
by
the
gentry
and
tradesmen
who
used
to
meet
for
discussion
on
lines
recorded
later
in
their
minutes,
and
that
they
were
served
with
drinks
through
an
aperture
in
the
wall-
this
aperture
under
the
clock-
until
it
became
merged
in
what
is
now
known
as
the "King's
Arms
Kitchen".
Whether
this
is
actual
truth
or
tradition
I
can
only
conjecture.
The
'Mayor'
for
the
time
being
was
supposed
to
be
responsible
for
the
conduct
of
the
room.
He
did
not
necessarily
occupy
the
chair
every
night,
and
sometimes
if
a
stranger
found
hls
way
into
the
precints
he
was
urged
to
occupy
the
seat,
the
penalty
for
which
was "drinks
all
round",
which
was
invariably
paid.
Being
a
musical
house,
much
frequented
by
those
"in
choirs
and
places
where
they
sing",
it
was
a
very
ordinary
thing
to
find
sufficient
talent
to
sing
trios
such
as
"Life's
a
bumper",
"Fair
Flora
decks",
"With
a
jolly
full
bottle"
and
quartettes
such
as
"By
Celia's
Arbour," "When
Evening's
twilight," "As
the
moments
roll," "Strike
the
Lyre," "Here's
Life
and
Health,"
as
well
as
songs.
This,
I
say,
might
occur
on
any
'ordinary
night',
but
it
was
invarably
so
on
'birth
nights'.
I
should
explain
that
on
the
mantelpiece
was
a
tablet
on
which
was
recorded
the
name
of
any
member
whose
birthday
occurred
in
the
current
month,
and
it
was
customary
for
any
such
member
to
say
as
a
fore-word,
"I
hope
you
will
turn
up
in
good
numbers
to
support
me
on
my
birthday."
At
nine
o'clock
it
was
the
custom
to
hand
round
the
"Infirmary
Box,"
when
it
was
the
member's
privilege
to
stand
drinks
round,
and
contribute
a
shilling
to
the
box;
and
each
member
a
copper
or
two.
In
this
way
the
year's
total
to
the
Infirmary
funds
generally
realised
about
£8.
I
ought
to
say
that
over
the
door
is
the
motto "God
Save
the
King," which
stood
unaltered
through
the
60
years
of
Queen
Victoria's
reign,
when
the
matter
righted
itself
by
the
accession
of
King
Edward.
That
reminds
me
that
it
was
a
tradition
of
the
room
that
women
and
soldiers
in
uniform
were
not
allowed
to
enter.
In
those
days,
I
suppose,
private
soldiers
were
not
quite
what
they
are
today.
Arising
out
of
this
rule
came
a
circumstance
which
nearly
led
to
the
breaking
up
of
the
institution.
When
Chester
became
the
head
quarters
of
the
North-Westem
Military
Command,
three
N.C.Os
in
uniform
found
their
way
into
the
room
and
asked
for
drinks.
A
waitress
informed
them
that
soldiers
could
not
be
served
there,
and
asked
would
they
mind
going
into
another
room.
Of
course,
they
declined,
and
left
the
house.
Photographed here in 1948, this wooden sign on the Eastgate for many years directed visitors down a dark passage to the Kitchen's entrance.
The Mayor (Mr Chas. Stanyer), after consulting the members asked to see the landlord, who sent a message back that he was busy at the bar. The Mayor then said: "Gentlemen will you all rise and follow me out of the room, never to enter again?" This was considered too drastic, so two of the members (Mr. Humphreys being one) were deputed to acquaint the landlord with the gravity of the situation. Ultimately he came in and pointed out that it was a rule of their own making that soldiers in uniform were not to be served, and that he was only carrying out their instructions. If they cared to waive their rule he would be only too pleased to serve them. This explanation was considered satisfactory, and it was decided to send a letter of apology to the three N.C.Os. A happy ending to an unpleasant incident. A stranger who happened to be present, as he left the room, remarked to the Mayor: " I have been an interested listener, and am glad you came to the decision you have, for I noticed the motto over the doorway, 'God Save the King,' and had you not done so I was going to suggest that you altered the words to 'God Save the King without soldiers.' " This broke down another barrier. Many members of the Kitchen, who attended the room nightly, were also volunteers, and after attending drill in uniform, had to be content with a drink at the bar; after this the penalty was relaxed.
In
addition
to
the
singing
mentioned
on
birth-nights,
we
had
many
members
who
could
sing
songs
and
recite.
Mr.Stanyer
was
a
marvellous
entertainer.
He
could
recite
Shakespeare
from
memory
by
the
yard-
whole
scenes
from
several
plays:
could
whistle
the
melody
and
sing
the
bass
part
of
a
hymn
or
glee
at
the
same
time.
Had
the
largest
fund
of
anecdotes
(local
experiences)
of
any
man
I
ever
met.
Had
the
largest
collection
of
music
of
any
private
imdividual
in
the
city
or
county.
Had
two
pipe
organs-
a
Snetzler
and
a
Willis,
and
always
raised
his
hat
at
the
mention
of
the
immortal
Handel,
whom
he
made
a
god
of.
Was
organist
at
Eccleston
Church-
two
and
a
half
miles
out
of
Chester-
for
40
years,
where
he
went
twice
on
a
Sunday
and
once
in
the
week
to
choir
practice,
counted
the
steps
from
his
house
to
the
church
door,
and
could
gauge
it
to
the
half-dozen.
Did
space
permit,
I
should
like
to
tell
you
some
of
his
anecdotes-
nearly
always
against
himself.
The first of three colour photographs illustrating how the fixtures and fittings of the old Kings Arms Kitchen appear in their new home in the Grosvenor Museum.
What
struck
me
about
the
Kitchen
was
that
nearly
all
the
customers
drink
stout
all
the
year
round,
and
I
venture
to
think
that
not
another
house
in
England
can
boast
of
being
served
by
the
same
firm
(Barclay
and
Perkins)
for
a
period
of
150
years,
long
before
railways
were
made,
and
when
it
had
to
be
conveyed
by
sea
or
river.
And
still
going
strong.
Of
course,
the
room
had
a
World-wide
fame,
no
visit
to
Chester
being
complete
without
a
look
at
the
'Kitchen'.
I
remember
on
one
occasion
an
Aderman,
and
Mayor
of
the
city,
bringing
some
friends
to
view
it.
He
greeted
the
host
with "I'm
just
going
to
show
my
friends
your
sanctum
sanctorum." "Look
here,
Mr.
Mayor,"
he
said,
"I
don't
mind
you
showin'
'em
round,
but
I
won't
have
my
house
called
nicknames."
In
course
of
time
the
room
began
to
lose
its
exclusiveness,
and
owing
to
the
difficulty
of
finding
a
Mayor
willing
to
act,
there
was
a
little
lapse.
An
attempt
was
made
to
revive
the
glorious
traditions
of
the
past,
but
interest
gradually
waned,
and
the
last
Mayor
to
be
elected
was
in
1897.
Of
course,
it
is
as
largely
attended
as
ever,
but
entirely
of
a
changed
character,
and
one
cannot
help
feeling
a
certain
amount
of
regret
at
the
passing
away
of
such
an
ancient
and
honourable
institution.
One
may
wonder
how
the
penalties
referred
to
in
the
minutes
were
enforced,
but
the
following
poem,
recently
unearthed
from
the
minutes,
will
explain:
THE CHAMPION'S CHALLENGE TO THOSE WHO DO NOT OBEY THE MANDATE 0F THE WORSHIPFUL MAYOR
"Sir,
I
am
commanded
by
the
Worshipful
the
Mayor
to
demand
your
presence
before
the
Court
assembled,
and
in
failure
of
compliance
my
Esquire
will
announce
to
you
my
challenge."
The
Esquire
then
throwing
down
the
gauntlet
shall
say:
"If you show any airs,
And don't come upstairs,
You are now in a damnable hobble
There's my glove, mind your eye,
You can't from us fly
Or I'll give you a whack on the noddle"
He then again throws down the gauntlet and proceeds:
"I see you look pale,
We are boys who ne'er fail;
Only look at this shovel and poker;
Come, budge, my old cock,
Or I'll give you a knock.
I tell you, you bloke, I'm no joker."
(The Esquire then seizes the delinquent by the collar and carries him before the Mayor, followed by the champion.)
During all the years I frequented the Kitchen, a very distinctive feature was the quietness of the conversation, even lf the room was full. There was no cross-talking, no noisy discussion about football, cricket, politics or religion, and the same peculiarity exists to-day, the old traditions of the room being faithfully observed.
The 'Honorable Incorporation' came to an end in 1897, though the rituals associated with the establishment were fondly remembered for years after- many a local is said to have enjoyed a free drink after American servicemen were lured into sitting in the 'Mayor's' chair and then told of the tradition".
The Honorable Incorporation came to an end in 1897 due to lack of interest and its parlour incorporated into the King's Arms Kitchen pub. This in turn eventually closed for good in 1978 and the site now forms part of the Midland Bank's banking hall. The historic fittings were, fortunately, saved and transferred to the Grosvenor Museum, where once more they are the scene of drinking- albeit of a non-alcoholic variety: they have been imaginitively incorporated into the interior of the museum's refreshment room on the first floor. Take care if you sit in the Mayor's seat- you may find yourself having to fork out for 'coffees all round'...
The excellent Grosvenor Museum is open daily and admission is free.
In October 2002, this interesting- but sadly anonymous- reminiscience of the Kitchen appeared in the letters pages of the Chester Standard:
"Over 50 years ago, when we were 'young bloods', I frequented the King's Arms Kitchen on many an occasion. Being secreted up an alleyway adjacent to the Eastgate, it was a very quiet pub, and the 'Council Chamber' was very special being used only at the landlord's discretion.
As a lark we would invite visitors to occupy the 'Mayor's Seat' (in which no one sat normally) with the landlord's encouragement and permission. Once enthroned in 'the chair' we would then, and only then, inform the occupant that it was an old custom in Chester to pay for 'drinks all round' and invariably they gladly paid up for the honour of being mine-host, the 'Mayor' .
The bar was not large, hence the bill was always reasonable and anyone asking for spirits was frowned upon (beer was then about a shilling a pint!) It was always a pleasure to take visitors in, an 'historical occasion' for them, calling themselves 'Honorary Cestrians', plus a free drink and a laugh for us.
I don't remember the landlord ever inviting women into this bar. Come to think of it, very few women went into public bars in those days; how times have changed! There was invariably an 'outdoor' (a hatch in the passage) at the rear of most pubs where one could take a jug and get it filled to take home. The landlords often provided stools near the 'hatch' and women would sit there, 'unseen', rather than sit in the pub. When they 'modernised' (vandalised) the pubs, these hatches disappeared as did the snugs, which had open fireplaces for oldtimers who went in nightly.
When a boy, I sometimes (not often) carried a jug of ale from the hatch, covered with a saucer, along our terraced street. My father never went into pubs except when we were on long cycle rides, when he would nip into a village inn for a quick one. He would be out in seconds, bringing me a bottle of pop. Children were certainly not allowed inside in the 30s".
We received this letter from Eddie McNulty in February 2008-
"Just looking at the write up on the Kings Arms Kitchen. I had a wonderful night there in the early seventies a coach load of us came up from the Old Dyers Arms in Coventry. We were friends through the folk scene with an equally crazy crowd from Chester we all arrived in fancy dress and were promptly turned away from the Bear and Billet. We ended up in the KAK and a great night was had, I was dressed in an oversized evening suit complete with illuminated and revolving bow tie. I ended up in the "big chair" after buying about 50 halves of bitter for the privilege. Had a brilliant night and ended up with the prettiest girl in the pub.
I know this is a longshot but I wondered if you might know the whereabouts of the main Chester lunatic Billy Oultram AKA Superman AKA Mad Billie. I lost track of him over the years and wondered if you had ever heard of him? I really enjoyed the article on the pub and the photos brought back some happy memories."
Contact Eddie here if you are able to identify the present whereabouts of this gentleman.
Along with the Kitchen, many other Chester public houses have
ceased to be. Here is an illustrated list of
some of them. Your contributions are very welcome!
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